Hello, Also, is it true that she makes the statement somewhere that only some of her writings are inspired from GOD. A friend of mine heard that from one of his SDA minister's. And yes, I am a Seventh Day Adventist member as well. My friend heard that she makes the statement that only her Testamonies are inspired.
Thank you ___________!
My forgetter broke down, so I found the collection of statements I told you about before, which gives various statements by Mrs. White regarding the relationship between her writings and the Bible, and also regarding her view of the authority of her various writings. I've attached the collection below my signature. I hope you will find it useful. God bless.
William Fagal, Director
Ellen G. White Estate Branch Office
Berrien Springs, MI 49104-1400 USA
Phone: 616 471-3209
FAX: 616 471-6166
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE AND SCRIPTURE As Expressed in Ellen White's Writings
I. EGW's UNDERSTANDING OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HER WRITINGS AND SCRIPTURE
A. Testimonies for the Church, 5:665: "The written testimonies are not to give new light, but to impress vividly upon the heart the truths of inspiration already revealed. Man's duty to God and to his fellow man has been distinctly specified in God's word, yet but few of you are obedient to the light given. Additional truth is not brought out; but God has through the Testimonies simplified the great truths already given and in His own chosen way brought them before the people to awaken and impress the mind with them, that all may be left without excuse. . . . The Test. are not to belittle the word of God, but to exalt it and attract minds to it, that the beautiful simplicity of truth may impress all."
B. "Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light." Colporteur Ministry, 125 (RH 1-20-03).
II. COMPARISONS OF EGW'S WRITINGS TO BIBLE
A. Authorship. "The Holy Ghost is the Author of the Scriptures and of the Spirit of Prophecy. These are not to be twisted and turned to mean what men may want them to mean, to carry out man's ideas and sentiments, to carry forward man's schemes at all hazards. 'Many shall follow their pernicious ways, by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of, and through covetousness shall they with unfeigned words make merchandise of you.' We must stand as vigilant soldiers, guarding against the entrance of one wrong principle." (Letter 92, 1900 [Manuscript Release #136])
B. Channel of Communication. "In ancient times God spoke to men by the mouth of prophets and apostles. In these days He speaks to them by the testimonies of His Spirit. There was never a time when God instructed His people more earnestly than He instructs them now concerning His will and the course that He would have them pursue." Testimonies for the Church, 5:661.
C. Mode of Inspiration. "I am just as dependent upon the Spirit of the Lord in relating or writing a vision as in having the vision. It is impossible for me to call up things which have been shown me unless the Lord brings them before me at the time that he is pleased to have me relate or write them." Spiritual Gifts, 2:293. "Although I am as dependent upon the Spirit of the Lord in writing my views as I am in receiving them, yet the words I employ in describing what I have seen are my own, unless they be those spoken to me by an angel, which I always enclose in marks of quotation." Review and Herald, 10-8-1867.
"I have faith in God. . . . He works at my right hand and at my left. While I am writing out important matters, He is beside me, helping me. He lays out my work before me, and when I am puzzled for a fit word with which to express my thoughts, He brings it clearly and distinctly to my mind." (Letter 127, 1902 [Manuscript Release #119]).
D. Plenary (full) inspiration. "I was shown that the Lord did not inspire the articles on inspiration. . . . God sets no man to pronounce judgment on His Word, selecting some things as in- spired and discrediting others as uninspired. The testimonies have been treated in the same way; but God is not in this" (Selected Messages, 1:23).
E. Infallibility. "In regard to infallibility, I never claimed it; God alone is infallible. His word is true, and in Him is no variableness, or shadow of turning" (Selected Messages, 1:37).
III. EGW's UNDERSTANDING OF THE AUTHORITY OF HER WRITINGS.
A. "I saw the state of some who stood on present truth, but disre- garded the visions--the way God had chosen to teach in some cases, those who erred from Bible truth. I saw that in striking against the visions they did not strike against the worm--the feeble instrument that God spake through--but against the Holy Ghost. I saw it was a small thing to speak against the instru- ment, but it was dangerous to slight the words of God. I saw if they were in error and God chose to show them their errors through visions, and they disregarded the teachings of God through visions, they would be left to take their own way, and run in the way of error, and think they were right, until they would find it out too late." Selected Messages, 1:40 (1849).
B. "As the Spirit of God has opened to my mind the great truths of His word and the scenes of the past and the future, I have been bidden to make known to others that which has thus been re- vealed." The Great Controversy, xi.
C. "After I come out of vision I do not at once remember all that I have seen, and the matter is not so clear before me until I write, then the scene rises before me as was presented in vision, and I can write with freedom." Spiritual Gifts, 2:292. D. (Reporting words of angel:) "In all your communications, speak as one to whom the Lord has spoken. He is your authority." Letter 186, 1902 (Manuscript Release #1245).
E. "God is either teaching His church, reproving their wrongs and strengthening their faith, or He is not. This work is of God, or it is not. God does nothing in partnership with Satan. My work . . . bears the stamp of God or the stamp of the enemy. There is no halfway work in the matter. The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil." Testimonies for the Church, 4:230.
F. "Many times in my experience I have been called upon to meet the attitude of a certain class, who acknowledged that the testimo- nies were from God, but took the position that this matter and that matter were Sister White's opinion and judgment. This suits those who do not love reproof and correction, and who, if their ideas are crossed, have occasion to explain the difference between the human and the divine.
"If the preconceived opinions or particular ideas of some are crossed in being reproved by testimonies, they have a burden at once to make plain their position to discriminate between the testimonies, defining what is Sister White's human judgment, and what is the word of the Lord. Everything that sustains their cherished ideas is divine, and the testimonies to correct their errors are human--Sister White's opinions. They make of none effect the counsel of God by their tradition." Selected Messag- es, 3:68 (MS 16, 1889).
G. "In the testimonies sent to _____ I have given you the light God has given to me. In no case have I given my own judgment or opinion." Testimonies to the Battle Creek Church, 1882, p. 58.
H. Books: "Sister White is not the originator of these books. They contain the instruction that during her lifework God has been giving her. They contain the precious, comforting light, that God has graciously given His servant to be given to the world." Colporteur Ministry, 125.
I. Articles: "I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church, 5:67.
J. Letters: "Weak and trembling, I arose at three o'clock in the morning to write to you. God was speaking through clay. You might say that this communication was only a letter. Yes, it was a letter, but prompted by the Spirit of God, to bring before your minds things that had been shown me. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me." Testimonies for the Church, 5:67.
K. Interviews: "He [Elder G. A. Irwin, President of the General Conference] has with him a little notebook in which he has noted down perplexing questions which he brings before me, and if I have any light upon these points, I write it out for the benefit of our people, not only in America but in this country." Letter 96, 1899 (Selected Messages, 3:51).
L. "I have no light on the subject [of who would constitute the 144,000]. . . . Please tell my brethren that I have nothing presented before me regarding the circumstances concerning which they write, and I can set before them only that which has been presented to me." Quoted in a letter by C. C. Crisler to E. E. Andross, Dec. 8, 1914.
"I am not at liberty to write to our brethren concerning your future work. . . . I have received no instruction regarding the place where you should locate [nor what he was to do in the future]. . . . If the Lord gives me definite instruction concerning you, I will give it you; but I cannot take upon myself responsibilities that the Lord does not give me to bear." Selected Messages, 3:51 (Letter 96, 1909). (Letter to an Elder Parsons.)
M. When questions were related to light God had given in the past: "This morning I attended a meeting where a select few were called together to consider some questions that were presented to them by a letter soliciting consideration and advice on these subjects. Of some of these subjects I could speak, because at sundry times and in divers places many things have been present- ed to me. . . . As my brethren read the selections from let- ters, I knew what to say to them; this matter has been presented to me again and again. . . . I have not felt at liberty to write out the matter until now. . . . The light that the Lord has given me at different times, . . . ." The Southern Work, p. 72 (old ed., pp. 97,98).
N. "Abundant light has been given to our people in these last days. Whether or not my life is spared, my writings will constantly speak, and their work will go forward as long as time shall last. My writings are kept on file in the office, and even though I should not live, these words that have been given to me by the Lord will still have life and will speak to the people." Selected Messages, 1:55.
O. Biographical material. Spiritual Gifts, book 2, preface: "In preparing the following pages, I have labored under great disadvantages, as I have had to depend in many instances, on memory, having kept no journal till within a few years. In several instances I have sent the manuscripts to friends who were present when the circumstances related occurred, for their examination before they were put in print. I have taken great care, and have spent much time, in endeavoring to state the simple facts as correctly as possible.
"I have, however, been much assisted in arriving at dates by the many letters which I wrote."
In the appendix of the first 400 copies she added: "A special request is made that if any find incorrect statements in this book they will immediately inform me. The edition will be completed about the first of October; therefore send before that time."
[NOTE: No claim of divine source here for biographical material.]
P. Common Matters "The information given concerning the number of rooms in the Paradise Valley Sanitarium was given, not as a revelation from the Lord, but simply as a human opinion. There has never been revealed to me the exact number of rooms in any of our sanitari- ums; and the knowledge I have obtained of such things I have gained by inquiring of those who were supposed to know. In my words, when speaking upon these common subjects, there is nothing to lead minds to believe that I receive my knowledge in a vision from the Lord and am stating it as such. . . .
"When the Holy Spirit reveals anything regarding the institu- tions connected with the Lord's work, or concerning the work of God upon human hearts and minds, as He has revealed these things through me in the past, the message given is to be regarded as light given of God for those who need it. But for one to mix the sacred with the common is a great mistake. In a tendency to do this we may see the working of the enemy to destroy souls. . . .
"But there are times when common things must be stated, common thoughts must occupy the mind, common letters must be written and information given that has passed from one to another of the workers. Such words, such information, are not given under the special inspiration of the Spirit of God. . . ." Selected Messages, 1:38, 39.
[I think I sent you the above passage earlier, in more complete form. Mrs. White was responding to a man who claimed he had lost all faith in Mrs. White as a messenger of God because she had mentioned something about 40 rooms in the Paradise Valley Sanitarium when he knew for a fact that there were only 38.]
Q. Two statements (early, late) that show the purpose of EGW's writings:
"I recommend to you dear reader, the Word of God as the rule of your faith and practice. By that Word we are to be judged. God has, in that Word, promised to give visions in the 'last days'; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth." Early Writings, 78 (1851).
"The Lord has given me much light that I want the people to have; for there is instruction that the Lord has given me for His people. It is light that they should have, line upon line, and precept upon precept, here a little and there a little. This is now to come before the people, because it has been given to correct specious errors and to specify what is truth. The Lord has revealed many things pointing out the truth, thus saying, This is the way, walk ye in it." Selected Messages, 3:32 (Letter 117, 1910).